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shyguy
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PostPosted: Tue April 10, 2007    Post subject: Life help needed Reply with quote

Hi, I'm a new member and I would like some help/advice/opinions if any of you can. My situation is thus:

I'm certain I have social phobia, and have been for about seven years.
I'm 20 and male.
Over the last few years I have had up and down points with my ability to overcome my social inability.
I stopped going to school when I was 12 because of my fears, and had almost no interactions with people my own age until I was 16 at which age I decided to go to college. I did various courses there until I was 19, but over that time I wasn't able to make any real friends. There were people that I spoke to occassionally even having the odd laugh with, but I was never able to really connect as a friend. As soon as it was the end of the day, that would be it. I had no idea how to interact with them beyond doing college work. After that I went to a new college to do a two year course. Unlike my previous college I do a full time course where I am around the same class of students five days a week. Because of this I believe I have been able to intergrate into a group more then I have in years. In this sense I feel I have made progress, but there are still many areas I'm not pleased with. These being:

***I still often find it hard to start conversations with my class mates. Part of the problem is that I do almost nothing outside of college that I can talk to them about.

***I have never had a girlfriend. That in itself depresses the hell out of me. It isn't that I keep getting rejected. It's that I never let myself be in the situation where I could be rejected. I've never asked a girl out because I'm afraid, both of her saying no and her saying yes. If she said yes I'm afraid she'd find out how much of a social loser I am and not want to know me anymore.

***Now I think about it, it's the same with the people I know from college. I've been invited to their houses a few times (the first few times I made up excuses and didn't go, but I bit the bullet and went to the last couple...hurrah for me) The problem is that I'm afraid to invite them to my house. If I threw a party(like some of them have), they might come to my house, but they would be the only ones there as I don't have any other friends. If they found this out it would really upset me. They all have outside friends, but I don't. They all have other friends at the college outside our class, but I don't. Which brings me to the next part of my problem.

***I honestly have no idea how to start a conversation with a stranger. How do you approach them? Why? What do I say? The only people I've ever been able to talk to are people who are forced to be around me, either being in the same class as me or at work. Incidently....

***I recently got my first job, but I'm incredibly unhappy there. Beyond the money I was hoping the job would enable me another oppurtunity to interact with people and make friends, but I feel I have only made passing acquaintances who like at college I do not interact with once the day is done. Another problem with my job is that it is very dull. I was hoping that since it was a second place for me to go in the week, it would give me something to talk to my class mates about, but it isn't. I can talk about how boring it is and how much I hate it, but you can only have that conversation so many times before you become boring to them.

***One last fear/concern I have is this. For all the progress I have made at my new college I fear I'm soon going to lose it, as my course is ending in June. After that I won't have any real oppurtunity to see my class mates and I will once again be friendless and lonely.

Well there you have it. I'll stop there because I've been rambling on quite a bit, but really this is only scratching the surface of my social phobia. I'd really appreciate some help. Thanks.
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iPlume
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PostPosted: Tue April 10, 2007    Post subject: Re: Life help needed Reply with quote

firstly and i hope you find these forums useful and secondly...

shyguy wrote:

***I still often find it hard to start conversations with my class mates. Part of the problem is that I do almost nothing outside of college that I can talk to them about.


maybe try volentary work for 1 or 2 hours a week, or joining a meditation group where you can still interact with others without any pressure being put on you to come in on a regular basis?


shyguy wrote:

***I have never had a girlfriend. That in itself depresses the hell out of me. It isn't that I keep getting rejected. It's that I never let myself be in the situation where I could be rejected. I've never asked a girl out because I'm afraid, both of her saying no and her saying yes. If she said yes I'm afraid she'd find out how much of a social loser I am and not want to know me anymore.


well with this it just depends on the type of girl your wanting to date, its kinda a win or lose situtaion but still worth having a go, because she wont find you a loser at all if she really cares about you. in fact she'll stand by you and help you into everyday sitituations if you'll let her.


shyguy wrote:

***Now I think about it, it's the same with the people I know from college. I've been invited to their houses a few times (the first few times I made up excuses and didn't go, but I bit the bullet and went to the last couple...hurrah for me) The problem is that I'm afraid to invite them to my house. If I threw a party(like some of them have), they might come to my house, but they would be the only ones there as I don't have any other friends. If they found this out it would really upset me. They all have outside friends, but I don't. They all have other friends at the college outside our class, but I don't. Which brings me to the next part of my problem.


if they are really your friends then they either wouldent notice that no one else is their but them or they just wouldent care and have fun anyway. perhaps go out to oether places with them rather than just houses and have partys. go for a drink or some lunch then decide what to do from their.


shyguy wrote:

***I honestly have no idea how to start a conversation with a stranger. How do you approach them? Why? What do I say? The only people I've ever been able to talk to are people who are forced to be around me, either being in the same class as me or at work. Incidently....


ask about the weather, everyone wants to talk about the weather or the news. then it'll slowly go to whats been happing in other areas. i like freaking people out by making odd conversations with them Very Happy


shyguy wrote:

***I recently got my first job, but I'm incredibly unhappy there. Beyond the money I was hoping the job would enable me another oppurtunity to interact with people and make friends, but I feel I have only made passing acquaintances who like at college I do not interact with once the day is done. Another problem with my job is that it is very dull. I was hoping that since it was a second place for me to go in the week, it would give me something to talk to my class mates about, but it isn't. I can talk about how boring it is and how much I hate it, but you can only have that conversation so many times before you become boring to them.


once again, volentary work perhaps? its less pressure and it'll look good for you and you'll be sure to make friends.


shyguy wrote:

***One last fear/concern I have is this. For all the progress I have made at my new college I fear I'm soon going to lose it, as my course is ending in June. After that I won't have any real oppurtunity to see my class mates and I will once again be friendless and lonely.


perhaps like i siad before, outside groups like meditation may help you and earn you some firends.
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Bobby
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PostPosted: Fri July 27, 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

shyguy wrote:
***I have never had a girlfriend. That in itself depresses the hell out of me. It isn't that I keep getting rejected. It's that I never let myself be in the situation where I could be rejected. I've never asked a girl out because I'm afraid, both of her saying no and her saying yes. If she said yes I'm afraid she'd find out how much of a social loser I am and not want to know me anymore.
On another forum that I frequent, some guy made a post about how he was 21 years old, never had a g/f or kissed a girl, lived with his parents, never went out, etc.

One of the posters made this reply which hopefully you will find useful:
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Lets take this one step at a time. LOOK UP when you walk, not at the ground. If you ever have to run errands at the supermarket for example, make small talk with people such as the cashier, no one is going to think you're weird for making small talk. Make sure you're clean, always have your hair done and face shaven appropriately, use deodorant if you don't already.

The first step to getting good with the ladies is being socially comfortable AND being comfortable with yourself. If you are happy, having a good time and you are confident about your actions, people will be attracted to you to make small talk and girls will pay attention to you. You need to talk to everyone you know, even if you know them little. Even if it's as little as "hey whatsup... you're in my psych 101 class right?" and EVEN if it lasts like 20 seconds.

I've been in your shoes, up until soph year of high school I was a loner, a nerd, had bad style, not exactly clean, overweight, didn't have confidence and always looked down to the ground when I walked. I also didn't have any friends.

I ended up making 1 friend, and friends make friends, which make friends, which make friends, in which you meet girls, meet more girls, and meet your GF. The trick to finding a girlfriend is that you don't really find her, you meet her through friends of friends of friends! You're probably not ready to approach girls, you need to develop a social circle and the girls come with it.

You need to start to become comfortable with yourself. If you have self image problems, start working on them! Get a tan, get your hair cut, shave, wear clean clothes, etc. Be friendly and have a smile on your face. Dont be afraid of judgement, just be yourself, be social and be happy. Forget the judgemental high school days, people hardly do those things in college.

Let me give you a list which will give you the order that you will achieve things. You can only do 1-3, and being successful at 1-3 will yield 4-7.

1. Prepared (clean)
2. Confidence (in yourself)
3. Social Engagement (talk to everyone, meet people and go places)

If you do that, then 4-7 will come without you asking for them!

4. You make friends
5. You meet girls.
6. You get a girlfriend.
7. Lose your virginity.

A lot of people think "AGH I have to lose my virginity! " In reality, they need to get through 1-3.

How to do 1-3?

1: Prepared (clean)
[I'm not saying you don't do these things, but do them if you dont already.]
Take showers daily, brush your teeth twice a day. Wear a change of clean clothes every day. Have your hair cut frequently and make sure it's done every day. Have your facial hair in check and make sure you're shaved every day (if it doesn't grow that fast every other day).

2: Confidence (in yourself)
Stop worrying about what other people have to say about you. Be YOU and people will respect you for being YOU. The people who are judging you are shallow and want to put other people down for what they are missing. Speak up when spoken to. Walk with your head up. Don't walk in a hurry, take your time. Be comfortable with yourself. There's many ways you can achieve this, you really have to find out what works best for you, it's all about being comfortable with yourself.

3. Social Engagement
Like I said, talk to everyone you somehow know, even if little. Make small talk with random people if appropriate. Take a public speaking course. Try a leadership camp. Go places where lots of people are and make small talk there.


This is coming straight from a kid who used to be picked on, had little to no friends (and no friends at one point), used to be very quiet, walked with his head down, never had a GF, etc. It took me a LONG time to learn all of this on my own and I now have a pretty large circle of friends, I've had quite a few girlfriends (no suprise I met them from friends of friends) and I lost my virginity finally at 18. I'm the life of the party, I'm the social dude in class, and I get called every weekend by many people to hang out.

Do 1-3 and you will get everything you want man. Glad I could help a little!
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browneyedgirl
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PostPosted: Tue August 07, 2007    Post subject: ur not alone Reply with quote

im only 17 and im worried as hell about going to college because i think this will happen to me. I have that situation only im in highschool. I have only a few friends who i talk to in school and am too chicken to call them outside of school. I've never been to a party, drank, or had sex before. So i guess that makes two of us. I'm really horrible at talking to guys and couldn't even dream of going out with one let alone have someone ask me out. SA really makes us ppl nervous wrecks eh? I'd love to be friends with you if i met you, tho i'd probably be too afraid to come up and talk to u. It's too bad the nice guys are usually too shy to ask girls out. I'd give anything to help someone not feel alone and in turn gain a friend. But i guess we'll never know because we're too shy.

anyway, here's my advice: get CBT from a therapist or do group therapy. anxiety meds may help too. I've never been to college but i'd suggest getting a hobby and becoming really good at it then join a club that includes that hobby. That way u have something to talk about. and work on making friends (thats ok if u can't yet i kno its hard) before trying for a girlfriend. That way i guess u don't have to worry about seeming a 'social loser'. Get involved in a club or sports and volunteer or work somewhere where its not as dull. Class could be a great place to talk to ppl. Just don't think about gettign them to be ur friend, just try and chat and be friendly.
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PostPosted: Sun August 26, 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I've found out, in my 45 years, is that fear stops us from ever accomplishing things. I'd say practice first on someone, anyone, asking a girl out, until you get comfortable doing it. Everyone is afraid of rejection, the only difference is, learning to ignore that demon in your ear that says, "You're a loser, She hates you," etc. This can only come with time and experience. I believe the more I gave in to that insecure voice in my head and listened to it, the stronger it became. You have to develop a strong sense of self. A self that tells you, " I don't care if 1,000 girls reject me, I'm a good person, and I have a lot to offer!" I really feel the only thing to fear, is fear itself! Sounds easy? It's not! But CBT and exposure to what I was fearing is the only thing that has helped me and turned me from, never talking to anyone, to talking to total strangers! I just let myself feel the fear and did it anyway! Hope this helps!
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